DEAR YULETIDE WRITER
Oct. 26th, 2020 04:13 pmDear Yuletide Writer,
What a year! More than ever, please have fun with this, and I look forward to reading whatever magic you create. I’ve requested a seemingly mismatched set of cooking shows, a historical drama, and one that’s both, but basically that’s been my comfort watching this year, and whichever you choose will be gladly received.
A general comment about my Fabulous Female Cooks requests: I love cooking, I love eating out, I love detailed books of esoteric culinary techniques, I love the history of food and hospitality and recipe writing, I love awful 1970s recipes and faded food photography, I love women who unashamedly love to eat and drink. If you love any of these things then please feel free to go hog wild with them. I'm normally not a fan at all of crossovers or AUs, but in this case I would be pleased to make several exceptions as explored below.
Cuisine Queens RPF
Any (Mary Berry, Valerie Bertinelli, Giada De Laurentiis, Ina Garten, Nigella Lawson, Monica Galetti, Alex Guarnaschelli)
First up, any combination of some or all of these “characters” would be welcome, and a crossover/fusion with Two Fat Ladies would also be a delight if the whim took you. I’m not remotely looking for strenuous research or any sense of “realism”, just a love of food and cooking and lusty ladies. My knowledge of these women’s lives is entirely limited to onscreen personas and a few well known facts/relationships, and a hearty appreciation of their gusto.
When I first started thinking about nominating this as a fandom, following too many exhausted nights slumped on the couch watching Food Network, for some reason there sprang to mind a vision of the ladies caught up in some sort of period murder mystery, think Gosford Park or Murder on the Orient Express or even Murder She Wrote if “she” were a travelling celebrity cook instead of a novelist. I’d really love to see (some or all of) them at a country house or on a train or stranded on an island or any of the other classic mystery settings, teaming up to solve a murder most foul. (I’m sure he deserved it.) Even better if the mystery somehow revolves around food or cooking, or the solution hinges on detailed knowledge of the culinary arts.
Obviously, if that doesn’t appeal then any other idea you have would be great as well. Some or all of the women are contestants on the current season of Masterchef (UK please, not US). Two or more of the women were naughty schoolgirls together having regular midnight feasts with lashings of ginger beer. One of our mild mannered chefs is secretly a superhero or a secret agent/spy and the fate of the world is in her hands. Mary Berry and the Queen had adventures together during WWII. Feel free to toss in as many digressions about food or the history of food or anecdotes stolen from the lives of famous chefs or restaurateurs or society madams as you like, and link or footnote any fantastic recipes that seem relevant.
Mary Berry: I love the fact she famously likes a drink. Never enough booze in the cakes during Bakeoff. I’ve been watching her recently touring the stately homes of Britain and cooking in the historical kitchens, and boy she looks good in an evening dress, or dancing a Highland reel at Scone. “That’s a bit of all right!” Could definitely see her Miss Marple-ing her way through a mystery all while turning out impeccable cream teas.
Valerie Bertinelli: Former child star. Famous rocker (or period appropriate musician) ex-husband. Addicted to lemon curd!
Giada De Laurentiis: Glamorous blonde granddaughter of famous movie producer (theatre impresario?) brings an air of Italian mystery to an English country weekend.
Ina Garten: Shockingly made her fortune running a shop! Or is she actually, really, a runaway (barefoot even) Contessa?
Nigella Lawson: I’ve always appreciated her buxom figure and sheer exuberance bordering on gluttony. “To some people, using half a kilo of chocolate to make twelve biscuits may seem excessive, but I don’t put a price on alleviating human suffering.”
Monica Galetti: Frighteningly competent during the skills test. Any sort of local colour from New Zealand or Samoa welcome, or stick to her years in the UK/on Masterchef.
Alex Guarnaschelli: Frighteningly competent on Iron Chef, extremely kind to small children on Chopped.
Two Fat Ladies (TV)
Clarissa Dickson Wright, Jennifer Paterson
As mentioned above, a crossover/fusion with my Cuisine Queens RPF request would be welcome, and, together or separately, any of the prompts from that section of my letter apply equally to this fandom and these characters. Feel absolutely free to mix and match as much as you’d like, or just to wholesale steal those prompts and apply them to this fandom and these characters instead.
I absolutely loved this show when I first saw it almost twenty-five years ago, and some of the recipes really haven’t aged well on rewatch, but the ladies are just as large and loud and full of unashamed lust for life as they ever were. If anything, I can imagine a scenario where the fact they’re actually pretty far from expert cooks is part of the grand reveal that they’re really a pair of travelling detectives who only pretend to be chefs as a way to infiltrate the houses of the rich and suspicious, and drive around the countryside in their bike and sidecar solving dastardly crimes.
Again, any other story you want to tell would please me, from the days of their misspent youths to their travels to exotic foreign ports to their storied careers as cooks, housekeepers, and hostesses. I’d prefer minimal focus on Clarissa’s alcoholism or any of the domestic abuse allegations from her childhood; please just concentrate on the adventures and the food and the singing Jerusalem while beating eggs and the references to “those poor unfortunate vegetarians”.
A few gems from a recent rewatch:
“None of this nonsense about yoghurt instead of cream, yoghurt is not instead of cream!”
“Add great dollops of butter, that’s always a good idea.”
“The young, they exhaust one so.”
“Larding needle: a wonderful weapon, stick it in a burglar.”
“No good ever came out of Brussels but the odd chocolate.”
The Duchess of Duke Street (TV)
Louisa Trotter/Charles Tyrrell|Lord Haslemere
I loved this show from the first episode I saw – in fact I can remember the very first scene, it was the one where Louisa has been working so hard to pay off her debts that she collapses in the street at dawn, only to be discovered by Charlie slinking home on a walk of shame. I was just a kid at my grandma’s for the holidays, but it was love at first sight. It’s one of the great BBC costume dramas, and everything about it is so good, from the actors to the costumes to the fact Louisa’s life and career spans three reigns but even as a very wealthy woman she never loses her working class accent or scorn for airs and graces.
I requested Louisa and Charlie, but I love the whole Bentinck family, and would love to see any of Mary, Starr, Merriman, and/or the Major appear as well if it suits the story. In terms of what that story should be, almost anything would be a delight. Obviously I’d love to see episodes from Louisa and Charlie’s relationship, whether from the early forbidden romance days, to an AU where they really did get married “when the guns stop”. What kinds of adventures would Louisa have got up to as Lady Haslemere? Or any episode typical capers, whether at the hotel, or on Louisa’s inevitable run-ins with society matrons, like the visit to Cowes. Cooking a magnificent banquet for royalty. Having to host a banquet, but stay out of the kitchen and leave the poor harried cooks at the Haslemere estate to run their own affairs below stairs.
Rome (TV 2005)
Mark Antony
Full Disclosure: I'm a classicist by trade, but my specialty is Greek history not Roman. In any case, one of the writers on the show put it best when he said they were going for authenticity, not accuracy. That's more than good enough for me. But if you *enjoy* research then any number of historical easter eggs are certainly welcome.
I finally got around to watching S2 a couple of months ago, went back and rewatched S1 for the first time in years, and... God. I adore James Purefoy's Mark Antony, so if you do too, just about anything that revisits and explores him would be great. I’m most interested in his relationships with Caesar, Atia, Octavian, and Vorenus. I do ship Antony/Atia as long as it’s terrible and back bitey and unsaccharine, albeit with a hidden thread of sincerity. As far as Caesar and Vorenus go I mostly see them as just friends, but cheerful friends with benefits in Gaul for Caesar, and miserable in Egypt with Vorenus might work too. Or did he really love Caesar? DNW: any suggestion of Antony/Octavian or significant focus on Antony/Cleopatra. Explicit sex welcome but not required.
Antony himself is crass and corrupt but oh so charming when he wants to be, and an utter opportunist but also oddly loyal, and greedy, and generous, and cruel and kind, and amazingly competent but also an impetuous disaster, and I guess I'm saying what I love about him is he's a land of contrasts? Also he has great relationships with great (also terrible) people. Julius Caesar maybe puts it best when he says, "He has a vulgar streak. I don't mind it."
The first time I watched Rome I found Atia quite repulsive, but this time round I grew to love her. Partly for her terribleness, partly a genuine sympathy with how the tables turn with Octavian and how trapped she is by the end. And partly for her relationship with Antony which veers from friends with benefits to a political alliance to I'm pretty sure a genuine love affair to... where do we end? A woman scorned and a man who's convinced himself he loves someone else? I feel like the compressed timeline of S2 does no favours to the Antony/Cleopatra relationship, and I personally am utterly unconvinced by it... but Antony's refusal to either kill or more importantly humiliate Atia in front of her rival still struck a chord. And of course the whole triangle (not love triangle!) with Octavian. The way the adults underestimate child Octavian while they're still in a position to order him around, and how he seizes the upper hand so decisively when he's (just a little) older. The way Atia, as Octavia so rightly points out, *wanted* to make Octavian first man in Rome, but likes the results a little less than she expected.
Vorenus, of course, is Vorenus, so rigid he'll break rather than bend, but I love the way he ultimately stands by Antony to the very bitter end. That suicide scene, and the way he washed and dressed Antony's body after, oh my God. But also the way Pullo knows it's Antony who'll know how to pull him out of his post-Niobe crisis. All the ways they insist they don't like each other but admit they need each other.
And Caesar... I loved Ciaran Hinds' Caesar. I also love how genuinely, sincerely loyal to him Antony seemed to be. Embezzling funds, sure. An eye on his own opportunities, sure. But when Atia tells him he won't risk his own life to save Caesar and he says so coldly, but also with a sense of wonder in his voice, "Will I not?" it just kills me.
So anyway. Sorry there's no concrete prompts there, but that's what I love, and hopefully you can do something with it. You've got a free rein. Origin story for Antony and Caesar's friendship. Vorenus' stunned moment of realisation that he kind of loves Antony after all, it isn't just financial or spiritual desperation. Missing scenes from Antony and Atia and Octavian's life together. ("He's family, darling." "Actually, he isn't.")
Also, one of the few AUs I really, really love is canon divergence, so if Caesar lives and everything (or nothing) is different, or Antony and Octavian manage to remain friends of a sort (or at least allies), or Antony wins Actium, or Antony and Atia do get married, or any other hinge point you want to pivot on... That'd be amazing.
Thanks very much, and have a great Yuletide.
What a year! More than ever, please have fun with this, and I look forward to reading whatever magic you create. I’ve requested a seemingly mismatched set of cooking shows, a historical drama, and one that’s both, but basically that’s been my comfort watching this year, and whichever you choose will be gladly received.
A general comment about my Fabulous Female Cooks requests: I love cooking, I love eating out, I love detailed books of esoteric culinary techniques, I love the history of food and hospitality and recipe writing, I love awful 1970s recipes and faded food photography, I love women who unashamedly love to eat and drink. If you love any of these things then please feel free to go hog wild with them. I'm normally not a fan at all of crossovers or AUs, but in this case I would be pleased to make several exceptions as explored below.
Cuisine Queens RPF
Any (Mary Berry, Valerie Bertinelli, Giada De Laurentiis, Ina Garten, Nigella Lawson, Monica Galetti, Alex Guarnaschelli)
First up, any combination of some or all of these “characters” would be welcome, and a crossover/fusion with Two Fat Ladies would also be a delight if the whim took you. I’m not remotely looking for strenuous research or any sense of “realism”, just a love of food and cooking and lusty ladies. My knowledge of these women’s lives is entirely limited to onscreen personas and a few well known facts/relationships, and a hearty appreciation of their gusto.
When I first started thinking about nominating this as a fandom, following too many exhausted nights slumped on the couch watching Food Network, for some reason there sprang to mind a vision of the ladies caught up in some sort of period murder mystery, think Gosford Park or Murder on the Orient Express or even Murder She Wrote if “she” were a travelling celebrity cook instead of a novelist. I’d really love to see (some or all of) them at a country house or on a train or stranded on an island or any of the other classic mystery settings, teaming up to solve a murder most foul. (I’m sure he deserved it.) Even better if the mystery somehow revolves around food or cooking, or the solution hinges on detailed knowledge of the culinary arts.
Obviously, if that doesn’t appeal then any other idea you have would be great as well. Some or all of the women are contestants on the current season of Masterchef (UK please, not US). Two or more of the women were naughty schoolgirls together having regular midnight feasts with lashings of ginger beer. One of our mild mannered chefs is secretly a superhero or a secret agent/spy and the fate of the world is in her hands. Mary Berry and the Queen had adventures together during WWII. Feel free to toss in as many digressions about food or the history of food or anecdotes stolen from the lives of famous chefs or restaurateurs or society madams as you like, and link or footnote any fantastic recipes that seem relevant.
Mary Berry: I love the fact she famously likes a drink. Never enough booze in the cakes during Bakeoff. I’ve been watching her recently touring the stately homes of Britain and cooking in the historical kitchens, and boy she looks good in an evening dress, or dancing a Highland reel at Scone. “That’s a bit of all right!” Could definitely see her Miss Marple-ing her way through a mystery all while turning out impeccable cream teas.
Valerie Bertinelli: Former child star. Famous rocker (or period appropriate musician) ex-husband. Addicted to lemon curd!
Giada De Laurentiis: Glamorous blonde granddaughter of famous movie producer (theatre impresario?) brings an air of Italian mystery to an English country weekend.
Ina Garten: Shockingly made her fortune running a shop! Or is she actually, really, a runaway (barefoot even) Contessa?
Nigella Lawson: I’ve always appreciated her buxom figure and sheer exuberance bordering on gluttony. “To some people, using half a kilo of chocolate to make twelve biscuits may seem excessive, but I don’t put a price on alleviating human suffering.”
Monica Galetti: Frighteningly competent during the skills test. Any sort of local colour from New Zealand or Samoa welcome, or stick to her years in the UK/on Masterchef.
Alex Guarnaschelli: Frighteningly competent on Iron Chef, extremely kind to small children on Chopped.
Two Fat Ladies (TV)
Clarissa Dickson Wright, Jennifer Paterson
As mentioned above, a crossover/fusion with my Cuisine Queens RPF request would be welcome, and, together or separately, any of the prompts from that section of my letter apply equally to this fandom and these characters. Feel absolutely free to mix and match as much as you’d like, or just to wholesale steal those prompts and apply them to this fandom and these characters instead.
I absolutely loved this show when I first saw it almost twenty-five years ago, and some of the recipes really haven’t aged well on rewatch, but the ladies are just as large and loud and full of unashamed lust for life as they ever were. If anything, I can imagine a scenario where the fact they’re actually pretty far from expert cooks is part of the grand reveal that they’re really a pair of travelling detectives who only pretend to be chefs as a way to infiltrate the houses of the rich and suspicious, and drive around the countryside in their bike and sidecar solving dastardly crimes.
Again, any other story you want to tell would please me, from the days of their misspent youths to their travels to exotic foreign ports to their storied careers as cooks, housekeepers, and hostesses. I’d prefer minimal focus on Clarissa’s alcoholism or any of the domestic abuse allegations from her childhood; please just concentrate on the adventures and the food and the singing Jerusalem while beating eggs and the references to “those poor unfortunate vegetarians”.
A few gems from a recent rewatch:
“None of this nonsense about yoghurt instead of cream, yoghurt is not instead of cream!”
“Add great dollops of butter, that’s always a good idea.”
“The young, they exhaust one so.”
“Larding needle: a wonderful weapon, stick it in a burglar.”
“No good ever came out of Brussels but the odd chocolate.”
The Duchess of Duke Street (TV)
Louisa Trotter/Charles Tyrrell|Lord Haslemere
I loved this show from the first episode I saw – in fact I can remember the very first scene, it was the one where Louisa has been working so hard to pay off her debts that she collapses in the street at dawn, only to be discovered by Charlie slinking home on a walk of shame. I was just a kid at my grandma’s for the holidays, but it was love at first sight. It’s one of the great BBC costume dramas, and everything about it is so good, from the actors to the costumes to the fact Louisa’s life and career spans three reigns but even as a very wealthy woman she never loses her working class accent or scorn for airs and graces.
I requested Louisa and Charlie, but I love the whole Bentinck family, and would love to see any of Mary, Starr, Merriman, and/or the Major appear as well if it suits the story. In terms of what that story should be, almost anything would be a delight. Obviously I’d love to see episodes from Louisa and Charlie’s relationship, whether from the early forbidden romance days, to an AU where they really did get married “when the guns stop”. What kinds of adventures would Louisa have got up to as Lady Haslemere? Or any episode typical capers, whether at the hotel, or on Louisa’s inevitable run-ins with society matrons, like the visit to Cowes. Cooking a magnificent banquet for royalty. Having to host a banquet, but stay out of the kitchen and leave the poor harried cooks at the Haslemere estate to run their own affairs below stairs.
Rome (TV 2005)
Mark Antony
Full Disclosure: I'm a classicist by trade, but my specialty is Greek history not Roman. In any case, one of the writers on the show put it best when he said they were going for authenticity, not accuracy. That's more than good enough for me. But if you *enjoy* research then any number of historical easter eggs are certainly welcome.
I finally got around to watching S2 a couple of months ago, went back and rewatched S1 for the first time in years, and... God. I adore James Purefoy's Mark Antony, so if you do too, just about anything that revisits and explores him would be great. I’m most interested in his relationships with Caesar, Atia, Octavian, and Vorenus. I do ship Antony/Atia as long as it’s terrible and back bitey and unsaccharine, albeit with a hidden thread of sincerity. As far as Caesar and Vorenus go I mostly see them as just friends, but cheerful friends with benefits in Gaul for Caesar, and miserable in Egypt with Vorenus might work too. Or did he really love Caesar? DNW: any suggestion of Antony/Octavian or significant focus on Antony/Cleopatra. Explicit sex welcome but not required.
Antony himself is crass and corrupt but oh so charming when he wants to be, and an utter opportunist but also oddly loyal, and greedy, and generous, and cruel and kind, and amazingly competent but also an impetuous disaster, and I guess I'm saying what I love about him is he's a land of contrasts? Also he has great relationships with great (also terrible) people. Julius Caesar maybe puts it best when he says, "He has a vulgar streak. I don't mind it."
The first time I watched Rome I found Atia quite repulsive, but this time round I grew to love her. Partly for her terribleness, partly a genuine sympathy with how the tables turn with Octavian and how trapped she is by the end. And partly for her relationship with Antony which veers from friends with benefits to a political alliance to I'm pretty sure a genuine love affair to... where do we end? A woman scorned and a man who's convinced himself he loves someone else? I feel like the compressed timeline of S2 does no favours to the Antony/Cleopatra relationship, and I personally am utterly unconvinced by it... but Antony's refusal to either kill or more importantly humiliate Atia in front of her rival still struck a chord. And of course the whole triangle (not love triangle!) with Octavian. The way the adults underestimate child Octavian while they're still in a position to order him around, and how he seizes the upper hand so decisively when he's (just a little) older. The way Atia, as Octavia so rightly points out, *wanted* to make Octavian first man in Rome, but likes the results a little less than she expected.
Vorenus, of course, is Vorenus, so rigid he'll break rather than bend, but I love the way he ultimately stands by Antony to the very bitter end. That suicide scene, and the way he washed and dressed Antony's body after, oh my God. But also the way Pullo knows it's Antony who'll know how to pull him out of his post-Niobe crisis. All the ways they insist they don't like each other but admit they need each other.
And Caesar... I loved Ciaran Hinds' Caesar. I also love how genuinely, sincerely loyal to him Antony seemed to be. Embezzling funds, sure. An eye on his own opportunities, sure. But when Atia tells him he won't risk his own life to save Caesar and he says so coldly, but also with a sense of wonder in his voice, "Will I not?" it just kills me.
So anyway. Sorry there's no concrete prompts there, but that's what I love, and hopefully you can do something with it. You've got a free rein. Origin story for Antony and Caesar's friendship. Vorenus' stunned moment of realisation that he kind of loves Antony after all, it isn't just financial or spiritual desperation. Missing scenes from Antony and Atia and Octavian's life together. ("He's family, darling." "Actually, he isn't.")
Also, one of the few AUs I really, really love is canon divergence, so if Caesar lives and everything (or nothing) is different, or Antony and Octavian manage to remain friends of a sort (or at least allies), or Antony wins Actium, or Antony and Atia do get married, or any other hinge point you want to pivot on... That'd be amazing.
Thanks very much, and have a great Yuletide.